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Colin F
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Quote Colin F Replybullet Topic: Each Lotto Pick 6 line subset has an equal chance
    Posted: July 28 2012 at 6:32pm
Each Lotto Pick 6 line subset has an equal chance of success

Without a doubt the home for Lotto idiots is http://LotteryPost.com catering for people who consult booklets for dream numbers etc.

A recent post by one who goes under the pseudonym "Developer" caught my attention where he maintains different integers used in one lne produce different 3-combination intersects with all the 6-combination possibilities in a 6/49 Lotto game see http://www.lotterypost.com/thread/248193

For numerical order line 01 12 13 38 39 49, 1 is always in position 1 and 12 and 13 will be next to each other as in XXX000 (7,140), X0XX00 (6,300), X00XX00 (1,620) and X000XX (120) totalling 15,180. "Developer" couldn't see beyond 7,140  but still lauded about how "brilliant" he is.

The amazing thing is with all their so thought expertise those that responded in the thread couldn't see the error!

After little hesitation but still mindful of all the facts "Developer" from LotteryPost wins the LOTTO IDIOT PRIZE FOR 2012.

Let's consider the reasons for him winning this award. He knows about the number of combinations of 6 integers in a 6/49 Lotto game (13,983,816) and the number of combinations of 3 integers in one Pick 6 line (20) and multiplying the two together came up with 279,676,320 combinations of three integers including duplicates. Presumably with his "I do like maths and that's why I do this." he knows about the 18,424 distinct combinations of three integers for a 6/49 Lotto game which when divided into 279,676,320 gives 15,180, the occurrence for each of the 18,424 combinations of 3 integers ie 49c6 x 6c3 / 49c3 = 15,180.

Given all that, for a lexicographic enumeration of all the combinations of 6 integers he states for line 01 12 13 38 39 40, "01 12 13 Appears 7,140  times in position XXXOOO =  47.04%  of a possible 15,180 positions available". As I previously pointed out 01 12 13 also appears 6,300 times for X0XX00, 1,620 times for X00XX0 and 120 times for X000XX giving the expected total of 15,180.

"Developer" is from the UK and has been a member of LotteryPost since December 17, 2004 so he is no newbie. Very worrying for intending air flight passengers is his bragging, "In my day job I code electrical test software for some of the world's largest aerospace manufacturers, ..."

According to "Developer", "It's a massive achievement for me creating an algorithm that can do that, and so fast. I have been working on it for many months. Thought I would share with a community that could appreciate it, my wife just goes, "That's nice dear""

Purely for the intellectual exercise as the premise for "Developers Pick 6 Lotto System" is entirely wrong I modified a bit of old code and came up with the 20 lines and 20 columns output for any of the Pick 6 lines after getting up and before breakfast which is given below. In VBA it takes about 1 minute to run and this can be improved on.

The "Gurus" at LotteryPost that participated in the thread couldn't see the blatant contradiction and woeful error and some actually confirmed his output. This undoubtedly is a sad outcome from webmaster Todd Northrup's practice of kicking out of his forum those that are too questioning and rational for his taste.

Developer also wrote, "I have now tweaked the algorithm to predict the other missing numbers based on the 3 ball probability as explained above, comparing these predictions with past draw data I can see the hit rate is the best I have ever seen to date period...... The challenge still remains to pick the first 3 correct balls in their final 3 positions in the draw." and may all his insane predictions come true!

Actually, I am interested to see how long it takes before a subscriber to LotteryPost who also visits here from time to time wins kudos by posting a correction (LotteryPost rules prohibit the mention of my name) and whether Todd Northrup is so embarrassed that he deletes the whole thread.

Obviously "Developers" involvement with the crackpots of http://LotteryPost.com has led him down the occultist path to a pit of putrescent ridiculousness.


Position abc abd abe abf acd ace acf ade adf aef bcd bce bcf bde bdf bef cde cdf cef def
XXX000 7140 165 7140 0 165 120 0 120 0 0 165 120 0 120 0 0 120 0 0 0
XX0X00 0 1375 0 0 1320 1125 0 0 0 0 1320 1125 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
XX00X0 0 3300 0 0 3036 3000 0 0 0 0 3036 3000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
XX000X 0 2300 0 7140 2024 2300 6545 0 120 84 2024 2300 6545 0 120 84 0 120 84 84
X0XX00 6300 550 6300 0 605 495 0 1620 0 0 0 0 0 1125 0 0 1080 0 0 0
X0X0X0 0 2750 0 0 2904 2750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
X0X00X 0 3000 0 6300 3036 3300 6545 0 1620 1332 0 0 0 0 1125 936 0 1080 900 0
X00XX0 1620 495 1620 0 605 550 0 6300 0 0 0 0 0 3000 0 0 2760 0 0 0
X00X0X 0 1125 0 1620 1320 1375 1925 0 6300 5994 0 0 0 0 3000 2925 0 2760 2700 0
X000XX 120 120 120 120 165 165 165 7140 7140 7770 0 0 0 2300 2300 2600 2024 2024 2300 0
0XXX00 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 605 495 0 495 0 0 540 0 0 0
0XX0X0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2904 3300 0 0 0 396 0 540 0 1332
0XX00X 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3036 3300 6545 0 495 396 0 540 432 1332
0X0XX0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2750 0 0 2880 0 0 0
0X0X0X 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2750 2574 0 2880 2700 0
0X00XX 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3300 3300 3575 3312 3312 3600 0
00XXX0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 605 550 0 550 0 0 660 0 0 0
00XX0X 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1320 1375 1925 0 550 495 0 660 594 5994
00X0XX 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1375 1375 1430 1584 1584 1650 0
000XXX 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 165 165 165 165 165 165 220 220 220 7770
Totals 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180 15180


Colin Fairbrother
Lotto Draws have no relationship to one another; the integers serve just as identifiers. Any prediction calculation on one history of draws for a same type game is just as irrelevant as another.
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