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Colin F
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Quote Colin F Replybullet Topic: Playing All 90 Base Doubles Trial Run
    Posted: July 09 2006 at 8:05am

The complement to playing all the 120 Base Unmatched is playing all the 90 Base Doubles. At 25c per play this will cost you $22.50 at 5 Dimes.

Your odds on getting a Double are 270 in 1,000 or pretty well 3 in 11. So after how many consecutive Unmatched do you consider it opportune to bet on a double turning up? Well, I can tell you that a run of Unmatched can easily go to 17 or more! To offset this a double pays twice as much as an Unmatched at 5 Dimes so for your $22.50 outlay at 25c per play you stand to win $75.00 to put you $52.50 in front. You can afford to lose at 3 attempts at a cost of $67.50 and still be in front by $7.50. Don't chase unless you've come in at around 14 consecutive Unmatched and limit yourself to at most 3 attempts.

If you play all the 90 Base Doubles at State payouts then you have one chance at turning a profit with 160 to 1 payouts but your minimum outlay is $45.00 at 50c per play. For this you will receive $80 for a win to give a net of $35.00; compare this to receiving $150 for the same outlay with a net of $105.00 at 5 Dimes

What I said in the post about playing all 120 Unmatched applies here as well. This is a pure bet without any hocus pocus; it is perfectly OK to follow your intuition in believing that you have a better chance after a long run of Unmatched. For the mathematicians that say your chances are still the same just ask them whether they walk under ladders or would they like to put their money where their mouth is and bet against you.

Delaware Midday is not played on Sunday but come Monday it is worth a bet with 10 Unmatched in a row at 5 Dimes.

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ps Here are the 90 Base Doubles. Highlight, then press Ctrl C together on your keyboard to copy and past into the textbox at 5 Dimes after locating your cursor there by pressing ctrl V together.

100, 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, 700, 800, 900, 011, 211, 311, 411, 511, 611, 711, 811, 911, 022, 122, 322, 422, 522, 622, 722, 822, 922, 033, 133, 233, 433, 533, 633, 733, 833, 933, 044, 144, 244, 344, 544, 644, 744, 844, 944, 055, 155, 255, 355, 455, 655, 755, 855, 955, 066, 166, 266, 366, 466, 566, 766, 866, 966, 077, 177, 277, 377, 477, 577, 677, 877, 977, 088, 188, 288, 388, 488, 588, 688, 788, 988, 099, 199, 299, 399, 499, 599, 699, 799, 899

  

Lotto Draws have no relationship to one another; the integers serve just as identifiers. Any prediction calculation on one history of draws for a same type game is just as irrelevant as another.
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Quote Colin F Replybullet Posted: July 10 2006 at 3:29pm

Well, we've done well playing all the 90 Base Doubles on our first play for Monday, 10th July, with Delaware Midday coming in with a double, 776 after 10 consecutive Unmatched.

   Stake: $150.00
Bet: $22.50
Won: $75.00
Net: $52.50
Balance: $202.00

So, patiently we wait for the next one to occur.

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Quote Colin F Replybullet Posted: July 15 2006 at 2:54am

Both Arizona and Florida have 10 consecutive Unmatched. It will cost $22.50 each at 25c per play to play all the Doubles. If an Unmatched comes in we stand to lose $45.00. However, if we bet all the Unmatched as well we stand to lose a lesser amount of $30.00 - so we might as well do that for an outlay of $105.00. If we get two Doubles we net $22.50 - 1 Double and 1 Unmatched we net $7.50 - and if 2 Unmatched we lose $30.00. There is a 1% Chance that a Triple may come up for which we can take out $5 insurance. Click here for reasons why.

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Well, both Arizona with 250 and Florida with 134 have gone to 11 consecutive Unmatched. We would have lost $45.00 but by playing all Unmatched as well we have mitigated our losses to $30.00.

     Stake: $150.00
    Bets: $105.00
Won: $ 75.00
Net: -$30.00
Cum Bets: $127.50
Cum Won: $150.00
Cum Net: $ 22.50
Balance: $172.50

Better luck next time.

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Quote Colin F Replybullet Posted: July 17 2006 at 5:44am

For Monday, July 17th, 2006 Iowa/Illinois has 10 consecutive Unmatched so we're betting all Doubles costing $22.50.

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Well, Iowa/Illinois got another Unmatched, 751, so we lost again.

     Stake:  $150.00
      Bets:  $127.50
       Won: $ 75.00
Net: -$52.50
  Cum Bets: $150.00
   Cum Won: $150.00
   Cum Net: $ 0.00
   Balance: $150.00

For those that are familiar with my work in Jackpot style lotteries where I test programmatically multi-state and over a large number of draws you would be excused for wondering why I am fiddling around with these small manual sample results. Well, I haven't stopped doing large sample testing. It's just that I don't want to be the complete party pooper for Pick 3 which gives a lot of people good mental stimulation and entertainment even though their methodology has little or no substance.

However, playing all Pick 3 Doubles is not cheap at $22.50 for 25c plays and I don't want to be accused of leading you up the garden path using this method of playing All Doubles when there is 10 consecutive Unmatched. While I have full details with ratios etc, here's a quick summary of % returns for 53 State Games. (Tennessee Midday has yet to get one occurrence in some 136 draws.)

          Slight Profit State Games: 21
         Around 99%: 3
        96 to 97%: 2
                        90 to 94%:  8
                        85 to 89%:  8
                        81 to 85%:  5
                     Around 70%:  3
                   Lowest - 60%:  1
  Better than odds of 90%: 34 out of 53
          Average All State Games: 94.07%


Overall the odds dominate but playing a large block of numbers such as all the Doubles it is possible to make a profit if: -

  • you pick a State Pick 3 Game that is over recent draw days showing a profit and you hop on that gravy train on the basis that it will continue to do that and hop off when it doesn't.
  • you need to pick and choose from a large pool of State Pick 3 Games and that is only feasably possible by playing online at for example 5 Dimes.
  • you need payouts of 300 to 1 for a boxed double play and that too is only possible by playing online at the best venue, 5 Dimes.

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Colin

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